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How much math do you need to know to design electronics?

January 25, 2016 By Chris Francis 4 Comments

Education for electronics design tends to have a fair amount of math in it but how much is really required nowadays in order to design electronics? You certainly need some, but a high percentage of what you learn at college or university is likely to be unused once you leave, although this does depend on your career choice after university. That does not mean it was wasted time learning math in the first place, but what skills do you need to retain or which do you really need if you are self learning electronics?

design electronicsWith software such as Mathcad to help solve equations; SPICE to simulate designs; software which can design digital and active filters as well as passive RF filters; it would seem that you almost don’t need to calculate anything provided you can understand and use the software effectively. There will always be a need for someone to be able to work out the most complex problems otherwise there will be no one to write the software necessary to save us having to do the calculations.

You don’t need to know about Laplace transforms or Z-transforms in order to use commercial software to help your design, in the same way that it isn’t essential to know the inner workings of the BSIM4 SPICE MOSFET model in order to use SPICE simulation software. However, it is useful to be able to do some calculations and manipulate some equations yourself. For example, an amplifier using a basic opamp has the gain set by the ratio of two resistors so being able to work out what they should be by hand is preferable to iterating with a simulator. So, an understanding of simple equations and basic algebra for manipulating and rearranging equations is useful. An understanding of basic algebra and the ability to solve simultaneous linear equations is essential to be able to use Kirchoff’s and Ohms law which are some of the basic building blocks of simple electronics. Norton’s theorem and Thevenin’s theorem are two more basic theorems requiring a knowledge of algebraic methods.

Calculus is also pretty useful. While you might think you can get away without it, some simple equations are simply derivations of others with a bit of differentiation or integration thrown in. For example, the charge in a capacitor is Q=CV where Q is the charge, C is the capacitance and V is the voltage. If you differentiate it with respect to time you get

dQ/dt = C dV/dt.

As rate of change of charge is actually current, i = C dV/dt or more usefully, dV/dt = i/C which tells you the rate of change in the voltage of a capacitor from a charging (or discharging) current. While you could always try to look everything up in a book, it is quicker if you can remember a few equations and derive the rest yourself (or remember them all).

Solving simultaneous linear equations is fairly essential in my experience. Take a common problem I have often seen people asking – shifting the range and level of an analog signal to suit an analog to digital converter (ADC). It might also involve inverting the signal as well. The question is something like “… I have a 0 – 5V signal and need to to drive my ADC which needs 1.25V +/-0.5V, so 0.75V to 1.75V range. How do I do it? …”. It is easy to see that the 5V signal range is now 1V so the signal needs reducing but the level shift seems to be tricky to some people and needs some basic math to solve.

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The direction of the signal may also need reversing so 5V input becomes 0.75V and 0V input becomes 1.75V. A generalized differential opamp circuit is one solution to the problem, but how do you choose the component values? Which voltage will be the input and which voltage will be fixed?

If you need signal inversion, V1 will be your input. If you don’t need inversion then V2 or V4 will be the input voltage. V2 and V4 are interchangeable because they both feed the same node and only differ due to the different values for R3 and R4. While you could find the required values by trial and error (or intuition), you could also solve it mathematically. You will need to pick some value for two of the resistors, say R4 & R2 and then choose which of V2 or V4 to use for the signal if you don’t require signal inversion. Then you analyze the two extreme cases – Vin = 0V, Vout = 0.75V and Vin = 5V, Vout = 1.75V. A combination of Kirchoff’s law and Ohms law will be required to analyze the opamp circuit. V2, V4, R3 and R4 will give you the voltage on the non-inverting opamp input. Similarly, Vout, R1, R2 and V1 will give you the voltage on the inverting opamp input. The inverting and non-inverting inputs will have nominally the same voltage. So, you have two simultaneous linear equations but 4 unknowns. With the two extreme values, you will have two more equations so 4 equations and 4 unknowns (remember we fixed R4 & R2). So, it is solvable with some basic math.

If you don’t like the values for R3 or R1 you end up with (too high or low) then the values can be scaled afterwards. One solution would be:

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V2 is the input voltage, V4 is the fixed offset voltage and V1 is zero meaning R1 can simply be connected to 0V. In order to avoid having a 0.75V reference voltage you could use two resistors for R4 – one connected to +5V and the other to 0V. This is where a bit of knowledge of Thevenin’s theorem is useful. In this case you would be applying it backwards. Thevenin’s theorem represents any linear network of voltages, currents and resistors with a single voltage source with a single series resistor. We have the single voltage source and resistor and want to replace it with something with two resistors and a voltage source but that behaves the same. You will end up with simultaneous equations to solve again because you need the open circuit voltage to be 0.75V but you need the impedance to be 10k. So, a bit of basic math should bring you to the following solution:

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Simulation will help to prove you have the values correct before you build it. While intuition may get you the 0.75V/10k ohm solution, turning that into a combination of two resistors from the 5V supply is easier by a calculation that guesswork.

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  1. Ron Segal says

    March 21, 2016 at 10:30 pm

    Interesting article, which attracted my attention being a ‘maths challenged’ person. Actually I can just about cope with some maths, but am not a syntactical maths thinker, rather I tend to think more visual conceptual then have to translate that into symbolic notation.

    What I find these days is that given clear ‘intuitions’ in understanding fundamentally what is going on (limits, integration etc), mostly one can get away with the appropriate ‘calculators’ (not necessarily simulations). You didn’t say much about calculators e.g. for the theorems that you cite. What gets in the way of course is that shorthand for those intuitions is .. well, maths!

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    • Chris Francis says

      March 24, 2016 at 10:07 am

      Good point about the use of calculators although I must admit I have never had much success with calculators for anything other than manual calculations. For solving equations or anything more complex I have always found alternatives a lot quicker, provided you have a computer handy.

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  2. Wim Telkamp says

    March 21, 2016 at 11:09 pm

    The math you need, depends on what you do. I am into antennas, analog and power electronics. Though I use simulation frequently (Lumped circuit analysis, Smith Chart, and Electromagnetic), I still calculate a lot, frequently to get a ballpark figure. A simulation may go wrong, you can make a typo, or there is a typo in the model parameters.

    Though you no longer need to convert time domain to frequency domain and vice versa, it is useful to have some feeling for relations between time and frequency domain when you are into analog electronics.

    What math do I use frequently (excluding the math during lecturing)? simple trigonometric functions, basic algabra, Complex Numbers, simple integration and differentiation (sure not partial integration), sometimes simple 2*2 matrix stuff.

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  3. Steven Ogle says

    March 22, 2016 at 3:30 pm

    Very good and informative article. One that I want to pass on to some of our younger guys gaining experience as technicians and Engineers.
    I have been getting op amp circuits to work for years without every using anything more than a basic understanding of algebra. I very rarely have to sit down and try to write out an equation of any kind. I am not working as an innovative designer. I mostly just fix stuff and figure out how to replace obsolete stuff. Many designs I replace are over done for what really needs to in the circuit.

    One aspect of engineering that I have never really understood, is I have worked with many engineers who can present me a page of equations but can’t figure out why a circuit doesn’t work. I think some people must just get lost in the theory instead of just looking at a circuit as simple components put together.
    I believe that most problems are really easy or simple after you find them.
    We have had machines come back, especially from Asia that people have designed new circuitry all around a failure instead of just fixing the failure. I am not talking about a failure that repeats itself in the use of the machine.

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